kasia in a nutshell

So it's a site for broadband users, presumably? And they're upset about the addition of an 896-byte image? Maybe they need to switch ISPs.

Or perhaps their browser is a bit slow. They should try Firefox.

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Sweet jumping Jesus on a pogostick! With all the crap going on in the world they complain about an image that I had to hunt for to see.

Make it a giant, gawdy image they have to click through to get to the main page. That'll teach 'em!

I... I.. I'm stunned. I'm flabbergasted. I'm gobsmacked. I... I just don't know what to say to all that. I.. I'm losing faith in humanity. I do believe that all the stupid people in the world congregate on the internet specifically to drive me bonkers. There is a coalition of the ignorant joined to make me drive my eyeballs from my sockets with their inane babblings.

Madam, I may very well have to turn off the internet now.

Dear god, save them.

It'll boil over.. Remember stars?

Don't people have something better to worry about? I thought they took the 'ad' down, until I stumbled on it.

I love that word gobsmacked :) Perhaps we could change it to a big blue E, but link it to the same place.

Presumably all of the users who are complaining about "I hate Firefox" are IE users, yes?

Give them a popup, or three, that say "If you had Firefox, you wouldn't be seeing these."

I think anti-MS folks are just as naive as the ones that think because they don't run IE the world is a safe place.

I've run IE and have many, many browsers installed. Of all the browsers I have, I keep coming back to IE for stability, speed and compatibility.

Maybe someone can list what you can do with FireFox that you can't do with IE? And don't say block ads, etc because just as there's extensions/ad-ons for all browsers, they too exist for IE. On the other hand with updating to the latest FireFox, I needed to download and install multiple extensions to get what I already had in Maxthon with IE.

Now for all the anti-MS folks, I wonder why there's a View In IE add-on for FireFox but no View in FireFox control for IE ;-)

There's no really "I hate FireFox" posts (like there are anti-IE posts). There's the feeling that the icon represents:

1) Advertising
2) Bias towards a piece of software
3) Because of the text on the icon ("The browser you can trust") that the site is not only promoting a specific browser but knocking another browser.

I think folks are disappointed that any specific product/technology is being promoted as better then another in a site most feel is fair and unbiased .

Do you complain to every website that has a "best viewed with IE" button or worse, Javascript which prevents viewing the site w/o using IE? (Even though majority of those site function just fine w/o IE).

If you don't, you really should.. that's for more biased than putting a little firefox button to show support for a great open source product.

I would complain if the site makes itself out to be independant and unbiased like DSL used to.

I'm not going to post the same things here that are in the forums, but it seemed that the posts here were, in my eyes, unfair.

I'll leave you all alone to bash MS and IE in peace.

Interesting that I have not written one word against IE or MS.. Maybe in your hurry to label me as biased and mindly bashing you forgot to check if I actually have done that?

I support firefox not to bash IE, but because I think it's a superior product and I prefer an open source browser to a proprietary one. Competition is good, even for Microsoft.

My generic reply was about the posts here and not you specifically Kasia, though I know from other remarks you've made, you don't like IE and don't care that your site doesn't display properly in IE. That wasn't my point at all.

As for it being slow (1st comment in this thread and you're comment to it), FF takes longer to load and a hair longer to render pages then IE 6 under XP SP2.

And while we're at it, how do you configure FireFox so under no circumstances does it load multiple instances of itself? I didn't see an option in FF nor an extension that seems to force an new instance to be just a new tab.

And can you specify a set of tabs (groups of tabs) to open when you launch FF? I couldn't find that option either. Maybe that one doesn't exist yet or I missed it too.

I don't use windows at all.. so (a) even if I wanted to use IE I've no option considering that IE on osx is pretty damn old (5.something) and (b) If i want multiple instances of firefox I just start them. I have no clue how windows handles these things.

As far as your other questions, there are so many extensions to firefox I would be surprised if someone hasn't done that yet.. that's the beauty of open source, if you really want something, you can just add the feature. Opera has the ability to open with specified tabs, btw.

I think the ones who claim they'll leave DSLR are the most pitiful.
I'd love to see someone leave over something so trivial as a 80x15px image.

David: have you done any webdesign? If not, you have no idea how badly IE sucks. Its CSS box model is broken, a ton of CSS properties are completely unsupported, PNG support can only be labelled "basic" to put it mildly, and the list goes on. It is now what NS 4.x was a few years ago — the browser with a loudmouthed, clingy following, which lacks support for so many things that noone wants to code to it, but everyone has to.

I don't even care that it's an MSFT product. I loved IE 5.0 at the time it was released. But IE has been stagnant since while the world has kept on turning.

Yes, I've done web design. Actually more appropriately I've done web development. Design (aka "the look") is less crucial to me then content/functionality.

For example, there's 1 line of code that Kasia could add to her MT style sheet here on the site so IE doesn't break and it displays properly. The 1 line of code doesn't cause an issue for non-IE browsers. Not sure where I informed Kasia of this (here or on DSLR) but the response was "no thanks".

As for "lacks support for so many things", the issue with MT is possibly the only problem I have ever recalled seeing in IE so I don't know how much support it lacks. We have some excellent developers in house at my company and we produce, both for internal and external sites, some of the sharpest web pages I've ever seen and they all support IE (as well as other browsers).

As for "loving" a browser... I don't "love" IE. I don't "love" XP (and I'm not sure how any "loves" an operating system). It's why I don't understand browser and operating system wars. I think it's very silly. It's like arguing Ford vs Chevy - what's the point. I use XP and I use IE as tools and those tools are the ones I'm most comfortable with and with what provides me the best results.

What spell checker do FireFox folks install to spell check text boxes in FF?

And while we're at it, how do you configure FireFox so under no circumstances does it load multiple instances of itself? I didn't see an option in FF nor an extension that seems to force an new instance to be just a new tab.

There is one. I think it's called OneWindow or something like that. Search again.

Thanks. I had that extension installed last night. Still opens multiple instances of itself though most things open in a tab. An easy way, if you have it installed, to see what happens is click: Tools / Extensions / Get more extensions

The window that opens is not a tab but a new instance of Firefox.

What astounds me, is the people who complain about the bandwidth of an image, who have an avatar on all of their posts.

If they were using Firefox they could block the image.

As for opening in a tab, and better controls for the tabs, see
http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/_tabextensions.html.en