kasia in a nutshell

Not really what you're talking about I guess, but here's another article I'm sure your "open liberal mind" will enjoy.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/johansen200503160848.asp

Kasia - That was fantastic post. This, though, is simply one example of how people can be spoon fed anything and don't even have the desire to know where it's coming from.

Matt T. - No, your posted link has nothing to do with what was written. As a matter of fact, it just further shows the validity of what Kasia wrote. The same way that article spoon fed you the view of a "religious authority" is the same way mass media fed Congress and the people misinformation about this sad situation.

The simple fact at stake is Terri has NO brain activity and people with questionable credentials are trying to say otherwise for their own personal gain.

Congress has every right to intervene in this ccase. Here's an excellent explaination of the issue:

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200503\POL20050321c.html

Congress does indeed have authority to intervene (they have jurisdiction over the Court system), but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea.

But even if one supports what this intervention, one should not use a quack to bolster one's case: bad arguments are a great way to not be taken seriously.

Agreed Steve. Congress has the authority, but this is not a good idea.

All of this press, just to try to have a religious issue to drum up votes for the mid-term elections when the time comes.

This is all Political grandstanding.

> The simple fact at stake is Terri has NO brain activity and people with questionable credentials are trying to say otherwise for their own personal gain.

Uh, if Terri has NO brain activity, how is she able to breathe, blink, maintain body temperature, ...?

adf, she's not technically brain dead which would actually lead to a complete shutdown of most functions (homeostasis is a partly chemical process, from what i understand). breathing and blinking are very primitive, and low-level.

the parts of her brain responsible for all of the functions that identify her as human are liquefied, according to the evidence given.

she can breathe on her own, manage saliva production, respond to light, etc. she cannot reason, does not have emotions and does not have a personality. essentially she is on internal life support.

i am a little uncomfortable about the lack of an MRI scan to prove the diagnosis, but i wonder if congress would be willing to relent, anyway, having seen irrefutable medical evidence.

the timing of this, and the role delay is playing stink of diversion. tens of thousands of people find them selves in the shiavo's position every year. why them? why now? could it have anything to do with certain ethics violations of which the ringleader is accused?

and if they are pushing 'the culture of life,' how about a push for universal health care? how about cheaper aids drugs and reproductive education for the third world? how about the bodies of women and children piling up in iraq?

there's a bit of a disconnect there, wouldn't you say?

Perhpas this is all a misdirection to keep the investigation of Delay out of the news.

I can't figure it out. I gave up trying to understand this administration a long time ago.

The Bush Administration makes a lot of sense.

further: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/03/20/regarding-the-cat-scan-of-terri-schiavos-brain/

> i am a little uncomfortable about the lack of an
> MRI scan to prove the diagnosis, but i wonder
>if congress would be willing to relent, anyway,
>having seen irrefutable medical evidence.

Every court appointed doc has come to the same conculsion: The woman is in a vegetative state and she is not going to come out.

In a country that people will sue at a drop of a hat, don't you think that if this woman had any chance to recover that the doctor would give it a try? Don't you think they are going to have their bases covered in a case like this?

This is the religious right flexing its power. To the parents and the RR this is murderer. Some people don't understand that, just because science today can keep someone alive, doesn't make it always a good idea.

> Perhpas this is all a misdirection to keep the
> investigation of Delay out of the news.

I guess. However, I don't even see the press thinking that the Dems have that much ammo in this case.

I still think the RR wants to have a drum to beat on during mid-terms.

pbw, i was just saying that if there was a stone left unturned, it would make sense to turn it just to make sure that every piece of evidence could be made available and acted upon.

my point is that congress probably DOESN't want that, because they don't want to undermine their own case (by congress, i mean the republicans).

the problem with the press and the republicans is that they're both pretending that the public is concerned about terri shiavo (they're not. the majority want's the plug pulled, and congress to butt out).

the dems don't need any ammo, because the press and repubs are shooting themselves in the foot.

I understand and I guess it helps, but if there is not much there to begin with I just don't see the press running with it that much.

Besides I don't think the story is really holding up investigating reporters.

PS HEY! Get your own name! :)

how the hell did that happen? :D

>> The simple fact at stake is Terri has NO brain activity and people with questionable credentials are trying to say otherwise for their own personal gain.

>Uh, if Terri has NO brain activity, how is she able to breathe, blink, maintain body temperature, ...?

When they speak of "brain function," they are talking about higher brain functions, like cognition , learning, etc. Breathing, blinking and maintaining body temperature are autonomic functions that are controlled by the brain stem, an area that can function when a person is brain dead.

I'll be brave enough to admit that euthanasia should be applied to Terri. The human being is not present in this body any more.